24/8/2016

Standing up for grouse shooting: guest blog by Simon Lester

Simon LesterSimon Lester, former head gamekeeper at Langholm Moor, reports on the ‘is there a future for grouse-shooting’ Q&A at the Bird Fair at Rutland Water, Leicestershire, on Friday 19 August 2016.

What a difference a week makes. Last Friday, on the Glorious Twelfth, I was fortunate enough to be standing in a grouse butt; this Friday, I was fortunate enough to be sitting in front of a 500-strong audience at the Bird Fair, ‘the birders’ Glastonbury’, to take part in a question and answer session with Natalie Bennett, leader of the Green Party, Stuart Housden, Director of RSPB Scotland, and Dr Mark Avery, who is championing the banning of driven grouse shooting.

I say fortunate because I care deeply, not just about grouse shooting in particular, but the huge benefits it brings.

Having worked at Langholm moor in Dumfriesshire for the past eight years, I know first hand what happens when grouse moor management ceases—it’s all very well documented and the 24-year roller coaster ride that is the predator/prey conflict continues.

So, what did I take from the experience of defending and extolling the advantages of grouse shooting and sustainable moorland management to a polite, but partisan, audience:

1. Never underestimate your adversaries. Like him or loathe him, Mark Avery has achieved his aim of bringing driven grouse shooting into the public and political domain, not least through his anti-driven grouse shooting e-petition, which, now it’s been signed by more than 100,000 people (116,000 and counting), means it may well be debated in parliament.

2. Sadly, this is not just a wildlife/people conflict, it is party political, too, as, during the discussion, several references were made about bringing down Tories, ‘men in tweed’ and the rich.

3. The Green Party’s Natalie Bennett has only visited two grouse moors, we must get more normal people and politicians on to the moors and associated areas—in summer, to show them the wealth of bird life and in winter to illustrate how much income is generated in the locality.

A lady from the audience, who stated she was not a supporter of hunting or shooting, told everyone that the study of curlew that she was involved in ended in all the nests being predated and that she was amazed at the amount of waders she encountered when she visited a driven grouse moor.

She also added that nothing would have stopped last year’s devastating flooding at Hebden Bridge in West Yorkshire—which Miss Bennett has repeatedly blamed on grouse moor management—as the rain was unprecedented.

Bird Fair

4. We need to decide the definition of sustainability and do some economic comparisons. If we want to maintain the rich biodiversity we have at the moment, I don’t think eco tourism will generate enough income to fund upland management.

Many big claims have been made about lots of money being made from eco tourism. However, although there were lots of hen harriers for birdwatchers to observe at Langholm, there wasn’t much of a drip down effect—just ask the locals.

5. RSPB Scotland’s Stuart Housden supports a less intensive, licensed approach to grouse shooting, but I don’t think he truly understands how time-consuming and skilful—thus expensive—predator control is, and the constant pressure many species are under from predation.

6. Who is going to pay for upland management? With Brexit on its way, I would have thought that private landowners’ financial commitment would be even more important. In the past, money from the EU has gone to Defra to be spent on farming subsidy and conservation, now it will have to come from our coffers, where a lot more demands will be made on it and politicians will have to make some tricky decisions.

It’s a question I would have liked to put to Natalie Bennett, with NHS, housing, education, social services and so on, all knocking at the door for funding.

7. We need to be more pro active with our case and use the science we have in a more user friendly way. There is lots of work going on with peatland restoration, understanding carbon capture and storage and the hydrology of moorland, which we need to explain in a pithy and understandable way.

8. Most people are passionate about something and I like passionate people, as I am one. At the Bird Fair, the audience was passionate about birds and nature, in much the same way that the audience at the Game Fair is.

Although many sympathised with Dr Avery’s views, they were very polite and showed no signs of hostility. Talking to people face to face is so much better than slinging insults about on social media. My only advice is, be careful what you wish for if you care about nature.

9. I believe there is a workable solution to this conflict in the shape of diversionary feeding, brood management and the licensed removal of common raptors, if they’re proven to be a problem to the sustainability of a particular moor. In other words, by dangling the carrot before using the stick—if these compromises were forthcoming and we abused them, then driven grouse shooting would deserve to be banned.

10. We need to deliver more—and increase the range of—hen harriers. The question and answer session was summed up well by the chair, Dr Rob Lambert from the University of Nottingham, who has studied conflict resolution, and who said that this conflict over moorland management would not be solved by enforcement or science alone.

11. Do not preach to the converted—whoops!

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Comments

Well said Simon

at 20:24 on 31/08/2016 by Alex. S. Milne

Simon is correct. To maintain any credibility grouse moors need to produce successful hen harrier nests. With none in England this year and none in the Angus Glens for 10 years while 23 young were fledged from Langholm in 2016 from 7 nests GWCT and other leaders really need to get a grip on the estates and shooting tenants. To quote a commentator "This is an industry comitting suicide" .

Ian Botham

at 18:43 on 30/08/2016 by Peter Phillips

I was appalled the other week to wake up to the Today Programme and sadly Ian Botham speaking on behalf of the shooting world. He suggested the well known BBC presenter who was anti grouse shooting had "tourette" . Why this he thinks it is appropriate to speak on behalf of the countryside and the shooting world is beyond me. This laddish and coarse commentary does nothing for the cause. All the good work you do is simply undermined by such unsupported and ignorant views. Grouse shooting must continue however it must be supported scientifically, rationally and openly where all parties whatever their persuasion have a say and are listened to. Please try to dissuade such people ever speaking again on such matters and certainly not on behalf of landowners and enthusiasts.

Rural Land Management.

at 13:04 on 30/08/2016 by Alec Swan

The one point which is so rarely raised is that for the last couple of centuries, we have as a society, managed our rural environment, and reached a previously happy state. How do we suppose that we reached this happy sate? By chance is the answer, but none the less, experience has taught us valuable lessons. We have a wonderful diversity of wildlife, admittedly as an accidental spin-off, but none the less, when we manage land for field sports, so we bring about a sense of balance. A balance form which we benefit as does our wildlife. Is there an alternative? Well I suppose that there is; we can have those with doctorates and no practical experience what so ever, ban all field sports, insist that either the Land Owners or lottery funding should pour £millions in to providing an artificial environment, and presumably at the expense of our current and struggling Health, Education and Security schemes. I'm also becoming ever more weary of those who would attack the existing management protocols on the grounds of class or wealth. It is an argument so inherently flawed as to, when rendered down, be seen as the nonsense which it is. There's no question that our CAP is in dire need of reform. Whilst not wishing to bash on about the EU, the one rule fits all system simply hasn't worked and it won't, with money all so often being directed to those who are in no need, and with many environmental scheme being linked to agriculture in a way that, at best, is scatterbrained. Many of the existing 'schemes' are so open to abuse as to be a disgraceful waste of public money. There is a better way to nurture our wildlife, and through our sporting interests, so progress will be made. Hand the system over to those who's potted and class ridden theories influence their leanings, and decline is inevitable.

compromise

at 10:46 on 25/08/2016 by john done

What do you do when compromise fails? When despite working together you see the illegal behavior continue because the people on the ground aren't listening and the consequent is so small it hardly matters provided you don't get caught red handed, because you think that you can deflect the blame? How do you propose that our colleagues are going to get the message through to the men on the ground that what they are doing by slaughtering every larger raptors in areas close to their moors, then try to pretend to be offended about getting the blame, is making things a whole lot worse for everyone. If you are don't "get the job done" you're an outcast, no one seems to be tackling the issues at source, we need to get a grip of this before we can start to preach about anything else!

Stand up for grouse shooting by Simon Lester

at 10:05 on 25/08/2016 by Peter Lloyd

Point 7 - supporters of grouse shooting and shooting in general need to more proactive. The anti driven grouse lobby are relentless and as a result have gained considerable ground - unjustifiably. I feel that BASC could and should be doing far more than promoting grouse crisps. I realise they do a lot of non visible work but that does not influence the misinformed public who sign petitions.

Driven grouse shooting

at 3:49 on 25/08/2016 by Jim Clarke

First may I say well done to you, Simon, I respect you for turning up for the debate, where others were only conspicuous by their absence. In response to your points 3, 5, & 6; therein lies some of your biggest problems. I live and work by the eastern edge of the Peak District, it's where I grew up and have lived for most of my life. Here we have large areas of moorland that hasn't been used for grouse shooting, and hasn't seen any predator control, in many decades. I'd be happy to guide you around it. These moors still retain their breeding waders (indeed some species such as Golden Plover have recently expanded their range), have raptors (and we know they would have more if it wasn't for the sink created by nearby driven moors), and they still have their Red Grouse (though, unsurprising, in no where near the numbers needed for driven grouse shooting). It's just any everyday fact there to see for the many locals, and many visitors, that enjoy the land, and is well studied by local naturalists. If you combine this with the shocking levels of illegal raptor persecution (well documented, and, at least occasionally, successfully prosecuted) -raptors which many locals have tried very hard to protect - on the nearby driven grouse moors, then you may come to understand why our local opposition to grouse shooting is so strong (please take a look at the map for the Ban Driven Grouse shooting petition). On point 9; 'removal' of common raptors will be fought all the way; far, far more people enjoy the sight of them (and when it comes to 'common' raptors like Buzzards, they have only returned to our area in the last 15 years) then are ever going to engage in driven grouse shooting, and the idea that they should be killed to facilitate the activities of the very few only provokes widespread disgust. Many local people are now thinking in terms of 'when' not 'if' driven grouse shooting will be banned in the Peak District; the widespread criminality of grouse moor keepers, the blanket denials of industry spokespeople in the face of the patently undeniable, and the arrogance of moorland managers like Mark Osborne, have seen to that.

Standing up for grouse

at 18:40 on 24/08/2016 by John Clements

Well done! I think there has been good preparation for the yearly grousing this year. Excellent films from Jonathan McGee and Fieldsports Channel; Plus very good representation on radio and TV. More shooters need to use the research to spread the word though. Perhaps if everyone who has been out on the moors this year put fingers to keyboard about the facts it would help.

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